Goku has been training since he defeated kid buu so he has improved his ssj3 a lot. That's more proof that Gotenks SSJ3 is stronger than him, not to mention Goku already stated he couldn't defeat Super Buu. I dont have him that strong, and i dont have any buu character being hundreds of times stronger than a ssj3 goku, thats on you if you do. Apparently Super Buu was stated to be equal to Fat Buu in power, only now his body is better suited for fighting Gohan and Gotenks are never actually stated to be stronger than Goku in either the manga or guidebooks (the guidebooks actually rule Goku out of the chain). He's stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks as he tells us on screen, but SSJ3 Goku is stronger. In this case, I’ll refer to the anime released in the United States. 0. gotenks > super buu, and goku is stronger than kid buu. Others say SSJ 3 Gotenks is stronger. Sep 11, 2020 #14 Anime Goku is … he was trained by piccolo so he has his smarts and later trained on par with goku. Was Goku just not trying hard enough? Wiki Points. I know that Ultimate Gohan/Mystic Gohan who fought super buu was stronger than SSJ 3 Goku from Buu saga. After the whole sheniganans with Super Buu and Buff Buu, Goku is more pleased to see Kid Buu than worried about his strength. whats more, ssj3 gotenks = super buu and goku = kid buu. remember that goku said if he was full power he could destroy kid buu but he couldnt reach full power as he had wasted too much energy already. So you would have base Gogeta at least being 10x stronger than ssj3 Goku, once he goes super saiyan, he would be at least a whooping 500x stronger than ssj3 Goku, at bare minimum. Goku admitted that he could have defeated Buy but he felt like it wasn't his responsibility as he was longer technically apart of the living world. "someone stronger than me will fight buu" 2. base gotenks is around majin vegeta level and goku said his own ssj2 cant even hope to stall fat buu for time so he goes ssj3. Potential Unleashed is stronger than SSJ2, but it's different than SSJ3. A lot of people think Kid Buu is stronger then super Buu. Join Community. SSJ3 Goku was evenly matched with Kid Buu, who was weaker than every Buu except for Majin. -Goku when he fought Kid Buu-SSJ3 has no drawbacks -Fight takes place in a wasteland-Win by Death or KO. Of course Goku says, “Well, I can do it too.” Went down into the comments and there was a comment section war about who is actually stronger lol. Juub said: Nothing suggests Moro is stronger than … people say goku must be stronger bcs he is the main character, but i think it was Toriyama (the company that made dbz) released a statement that ultimate … Goku: “We did it! As for the evidence that SSJ3 Goku could beat Super Buu. Goku did not want to fight boo at all until he was forced to and even when he won it was through the help of the entire Earth he was not stronger than kid Buu at any point. gohan stronger than goku? I agree that saying he hasn't made any gains at all is wrong, but nothing suggests he's made any major improvements over his Buu Saga self. the only reason goku used genki dama was because he put his faith in vegetas plan to use the people of earths power to save themselves. Vegito wiped the floor with him yeah, but if he fought kid buu there wouldn't be a floor to wipe. It's a natural to believe that, because Kid Buu is the Was watching a YT video of Goku seeing SSJ3 Gotenks for the first time and Supreme Kai asks Goku if Gotenks is stronger than him. Some say SSJ3 Goku is stronger. Even though SSJ3 Goku could have beaten Kid Buu, it's unlikely he could take on someone even stronger. Who is stronger ssj3 goku or ssj3 gotenks?? I think that SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Kid Buu, but since Buu has infinite stamina and regeneration, and SSJ3 drains your energy faster in a living body, and even Goku said that he could defeat him if he gathers his ki for one minute. 1. goku said so. In Z it fluctuates and in Super, we know who’s stronger. I am on your side with that, there is no way Kid Buu is stronger or equal to Bills in anyway, I just wanted some evidence to point to fact SSJ3 Goku was equal to Kid Buu. He got to cocky, typical of him when he has the upper hand. This way, we might be able to manage something.” Through this statement, Goku believes Kid Buu is roughly Fat Buu level, or at the very least far below Super Buu. i think gohan was stronger just bcs when gohan was put against someone he can over come them. Gohan didn't seem to be trying that much against Super Buu also though. Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P2.3-4 He hadn't made major improvements to his base power considering he was only marginally stronger than Kid Gohan. KennethLT Well-Known Member. Iirc, Kid Buu was even weaker than Fat Buu, but was insanely destructive to the point where he seemingly came out ahead. re: SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu Buu had no trouble regenerating from Goku's "regular" attacks, but they looked to me like they were more or less fighting an evenly matched battle. SSJ3 Gotenks>=Super buu>>>SSJ3 Goku=Kid buu. Kid buu is weaker than even first form super buu. Later, over on the Kai Planet, Goku says to himself, "He's more powerful than ever." It’s not even that. That's all the evidence you really need. There is Zero evidence that Super Buu's ki ever rose above Fat Buu level. Goku can kill Kid Buu, who is stronger than Super Buu. we know gotenks > goku because . I doubt he is stronger, if gotenk's fusion lasted forever, than yes. Forum Posts. No he isn’t. Also he said that to let Goten and Trunks think he can't. 546 Anime Fans. In conclusion Super Buu is stronger than kid buu. People are so hooked up on this argument so it’s time to squash some of this. Which is absurd considering Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu. 6 years ago. 0. I mean, once Gohan turned into his ultimate/mystic form he was giving Super Buu a run for his money and Goku couldn't barely take down Fat Buu when he turned into a SSJ3. KID majin buu: he has nothing restraining his full power anymore, has no concious holding him back, pure evil in his heart, personality of a clown from hell that is a sore loser. There is Zero Evidence that Kid Buu's ki fell after Goku and Vegeta noted that it was rising. To get things in perspective, we need to start at the beginning, and progress chronologically and stick to a single source of information. Followers. Co-Boss. During the Buu saga, Goku was only ever stronger than Fat Buu. kid buu was made to be a weapon of catyclismic destruction and enjoy doing it! However there are statements in the Manga which imply otherwise. base gotenks >= ssj2 goku. The same can't be said for BoG Goku, who hasn't unlocked any new forms within those 4 years. I personally think SSJ3 Gotenks was somewaht stronger than Super Buu. 12 days ago. Hell, ssj3 Goku would've beat him if he had enough time to charge up. When Kid Buu -- the final/original form of Majin Buu -- emerges from Super Buu's forced transformation, Vegeta says to Goku, "It's hard to tell if he's stronger now or weaker," suggesting Kid Buu's strength had not changed much. Yes and No. This was a request battle Now goku did say he had enough power to destroy Fat buu and possibly Kid buu if he had gone all out Although Gotenks Buu would be … Pretty sure goku said he and Vegeta would be killed fighting super buu. Just incase anyone wanted to debate what I just said. Moderated by: SgtMartin, EpicRaptorMan. Here is some proof to why that is wrong The only reason he was so dangerous was because he was untamed and ravenous. this form his speed is a little faster the ssj3 goku, strength and power is greater then ssj3 goku. Also you have no proof ssj3 goku got a "shadow buff" making him stronger than mystic gohan lmao. If gohan is still stronger SSJ3 Gotenks has the advantage of raw power over Kid Buu. vegito is stronger goku can even not handle fat buu in his ssj3 tranformation and vegito can deafeat super buu gohan eaisly in his base form . So i wanna know how the fight would go if ssj3 glku from dragon ball super fought ultimate gohan from DBZ. Follow 2611. add on the multiplier for each form and ssj3 gotenks >>>>>ssj3 goku. It took Vegito to even challenge Buuhan. I'd argue that kid boo and super boo are of the same level and that Gohan is stronger than all of them but it was unavailable due to plot induced stupidity. DBZ. 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